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Gay Marriage Bill SB 5336

Please contact your State Representatives about the gay marriage bill SB 5336, and ask them to NOT SUPPORT IT.  Below is my sent e-mail to them.  Feel free to use it as a template and add your own thoughts.   

Find and e-mail your Representative here:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/Default.aspx    

 Dear Representative _________________________, 

Please do not support the Gay Marriage bill SB 5336.  Marriage between one man and one woman has been the foundation of this nation and State for so long, and there is a reason for it.  Here are 12 reasons why gay marriage ruins society: http://scarletjewels.com/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000148-000130.htm.  You are representing me, and thousands of Washington people, so, I am asking you to please uphold marriage between a man and a woman, and not support SB 5336.  Many people in Washington oppose Gay marriage, so I ask you to represent us, and not support this bill.  For statistics and graphs on the decline of gay marriage support, go to: http://www.faithandfreedom.us/analysis.htm

Thank you for your time, 

Sincerely, Betsy R.  www.rightorprivilege.wordpress.com   

 SB 5336, is sponsored primarily by Democrats (Senators Murray, Kohl-Welles, Fairley, Prentice, Regala, Oemig, Tom, Kline, Hobbs, Pridemore, Keiser, Berkey, Franklin, Brown, Weinstein, Rockefeller, Poulsen, Fraser, Jacobsen, Spanel, McAuliffe). 

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January 23, 2007 - Posted by | Politics

7 Comments »

  1. Dear Betsy…

    We must keep in mind that “gays/lesbians” were also created by our HP. They too have supported this nation, worked jobs, paid taxes and fought in wars.

    Take into consideration for one moment the gays who hold government offices.

    I imagine a day when all gays decide to walk off all jobs and see how well corporations and this country would run. Perhaps the bosses will fire them. I think not. A persons sexuality is personal as yours with your husband and mine with my husband.

    Comment by hydrocarbon | January 23, 2007 | Reply

  2. Dear Hydrocarbon,

    I do not think you understand. It is not that we reject people who consider themselves “gay/lesbian” or even want them out of our work places, but we do not want them to change the definition of marriage. If you will please define HP, I may be able to respond to you more appropriately. For the record, I know of several people who consider themselves “gay” who do not want marriage changed and do not want the legislature to be fiddling with anyones’ “rights” because of them.

    Betsy: I read part of the bill, but it doesn’t seem to have to do with gay marriage directly, only giving “domestic partners” (which include homosexual partners) the same rights as married couples. I still think that this is wrong and that this bill should not pass, but unless you have more information than I do, I don’t think it directly has to do with “gay marriage,” although it may lead to that. Might want to look into that a little more.

    I think that most of the laws concerning marital rights and so on are messed up and the way to fix it is not to give those rights to other people who aren’t married.

    Now, here are my thoughts on homosexuality: homosexuals find their identity by there actions, at least, those who get political. It is their identity, which is the problem. I am not identified by my “sexual orientation” and neither are most heterosexuals. But, before you jump to conclusions, I am not a heterosexual and I am not a homosexual. I am a virgin because I have chosen not to participate in either activity.

    Why I believe that homosexuality is wrong is because the Bible, which I follow, speaks against it. Not always directly as many people try to make it (although it does in some places), but when it speaks against fornication. Frankly, whether it is two guys or two girls or a guy and a girl, they can all commit the same sin together. If a guy and a girl do what two “gays” do, they are still wrong.

    The problem is the rampant sexuality in society. Homosexuality is only part of it.

    Comment by Jahothanan | January 23, 2007 | Reply

  3. Quote from hydrocarbon:
    “We must keep in mind that “gays/lesbians” were also created by our HP. They too have supported this nation, worked jobs, paid taxes and fought in wars.”

    It is true. Even gays contribute to society. However, that does nothing to justify the absolute WRONG of gay marriage. The Bible (the foundation of America) clearly states that marriage is between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is rebellion against God. Rebellion is rebellion despite how many “good things” you try to cover it up with.

    America needs to rediscover and cling to its foundation- the Bible. Here is a quote from Ronald Reagan: “If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, we will be a nation gone under.”

    Unless Christians stand up for the Truth, the Absolute, the Right Way, America will “go under”.

    -L

    Comment by Lampie | January 23, 2007 | Reply

  4. Jahothanan: Thanks for the comment. Oops, sorry… my mind automatically says gay marriage, when it should be domestic partners. Sorry for the mix up. From what I have read, (please correct me if I’m wrong) the bill is making it so that domestic partners can be legally married. See my thoughts on this below about the true definition of what a marriage is.

    Hydrocarbon: Thank you for commenting! I like discussing things with people on both sides of issues. The reason I disagree with you really boils down to what I believe, my worldview and religion. Like Lampie said, just because domestic partners are helping the society with jobs and things, doesn’t make it right!

    The Bible specifically says the God detests homosexuals, “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” (NIV Leviticus 18:22) In Leviticus, Chapter 18, God lays out what unlawful sexual relations are, and although people might ignore it and say, “You can’t control my life, I’m going to do whatever I want to,” I know that God knows all and sees all, so He knows what is best for me. Therefore, all I have to do is obey, and trust He knows what is best for me.

    Another reason why I don’t think domestic partners should be able to have a legal marriage, is because of my biblical view of marriage. What is the purpose of marriage? Biblically, it is to produce children and raise them to be God-fearing, righteous men and women of God. Domestic partner (gays, lesbians, etc.) do not and cannot produce children, therefore by the Bible’s standards, it is not a marriage. Therefore, they should not be able to have a legal marriage.

    Like Lampie said, our nation was founded on Christianity. This has been heavily back-up and proven by David Barton who founded Wall Builders (http://www.wallbuilders.com/). He has done a ton of research, and if you don’t agree with my statement above, I encourage you to check-out why David Barton says that the U.S was founded on Christianity.

    You said, “A person’s sexuality is personal as yours with your husband and mine with my husband.” You know my answer to this becaue of my worldview. It isn’t my problem to worry about other people’s personal, sexual activities, but it is my duty as a Christian to approach them, and whether they take or reject it, at least I did what I could to show them that they are in the wrong. A person’s sexuality may be personal, but that doesn’t make it right! You cannot excuse what domestic partners are doing, just because it is personal.

    On another thought, I understand your point on how we need to remember how domestic partners help the society with their jobs, and that some hold important governmental jobs. This is true, but just because they hold important jobs doesn’t mean we must change the definition of marriage which was written and sealed by God, so that they can feel better about their interactions with their partner. It’s not a true marriage, therefore it shouldn’t be made a legal marriage when its not!

    Lampie: Thanks for commenting! Ronald Regan’s quote, “If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, we will be a nation gone under” is so true and right on. Thanks for quoting him.

    Comment by Betsy | January 24, 2007 | Reply

  5. Verses addressing Homosexuality for gays and lesbians in the English Standard Version (ESV known as the most accurate translation so far) of the Bible:

    Leviticus 18:22- gays
    “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11- gays
    “9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

    My quick thoughts about the verse above: But, because God is merciful and loves you, he has given you a chance to repent of the above sins,. If you truly want to change and not do them anymore, and if you accept His son Jesus Christ who died upon a cross for your sins, then your sins will be cleansed, and you can enter the Kingdom of God when you die.

    Romans 1:26-27- gays and lesbians
    “26For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error… 32Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

    Comment by Betsy | January 30, 2007 | Reply

  6. Guess what…. they don’t care what the Bible says!! They love each other and want to be married, what the hell does that honestly have to do with any of you? Live and let live, or at least “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.”

    One more thing—
    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

    Why don’t you all worry a little bit more about yourselves and your marriages, which I’m sure are FAR from perfect. Don’t forget, 2/3 of all STRAIGHT men admit to cheating on their wives!

    Comment by Deidre | October 28, 2008 | Reply

  7. First of all, you realize that your link “Here’s 12 reasons why gay marriage ruins society” is a joke right?

    I couldn’t figure out if your post was a joke or not, particularly because you highlight a web site that is in direct opposition to your views. Important to carefully read what’s behind a link that you post.

    Comment by blakeob | October 28, 2008 | Reply


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